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um in many cultures uh we find this idea

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that a human as well as any living

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organism

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is not just accumulation of molecules

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but there is something more

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that distinguishes a living organism

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from non-living

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in mythology in burial rights of china

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asian greece india and other cultures

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there is an idea that a soul or a spirit

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leaves the human body at the moment of

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death

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uh for example in asian chinese

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philosophy we find the idea that the

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soul is what also distinguishes the dead

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in this regards it's amazing to look

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at the works of ancient greeks

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and they put away the moral aspect of

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soul and they tried to find the

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scientific explanation to this idea what

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is soul

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greek believed that a substance called

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psycho

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leave the body at the moment of death

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you can see on this vase a dying warrior

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and there is like a smoke coming out of

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uh a little bit about ethymology of this

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word soul we use work psychology uh

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where it came from

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so the word soul in greek you can see it

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says psychian

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uh appears first in the 8th century bc

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in the hameric poem ilyad

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where he used it as something

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that a warrior could lose

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in the moment of death and here you can

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see uh

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the part of the poem

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in greek i'm not going to read it in

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greek

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but you can see underlined with red

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this uh first place that uh we can find

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the 5th century the adjective an

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adjective insult in puchus

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appeared in the ordinary greek language

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and it didn't mean

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having soul

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it simply mean being alive

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and it was applied to human beings

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animals and plants and distinguish

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greeks try to answer the following

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is the substance soul material or not

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if it is material what it is made of

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so let's look at the ideas of different

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philosophical schools

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hirocletus

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for example believed that the soul was

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but composed of an unusually fine

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or rarer kind of matter

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the only difference he saw

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on in the soul and body

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of this matter such as

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similar views we find uh in epicurus

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epicurus uh was an atomist

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and in accordance with

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his atomism he believed that the soul

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like everything else in the world was

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he said that it's atoms of some nameless

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the i it was they didn't just put the

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ideas they had a good reasoning why they

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believed the soul to be material

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they said the soul affects our body

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if soul affects our body and our body

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then the soul is also material

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because only similar substance can

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affect similar each other

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uh in the best way it was formulated by

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stoic as you can see on the slide

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they said the soul is a body because

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instance in case of bodily damage and

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emotions so that was the reasoning why

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uh the person's death so it stays for a

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is dispersed at death along with its

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of the soul atomic structure of the soul

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of what remains of a person of the death

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uh in famous plato dialogues we also

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believed that you can see here the

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they think that after it has left the

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body it's no longer exists anywhere

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and dissolved on the day the man dies

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like breath or smoke so he viewed that

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still didn't make much progress progress

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in understanding what distinguishes

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biophysics human organisms composed of

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life is viewed as a continuous

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reversible it's important it's

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the emotions mostly attributed to

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there is no place for such things

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on human being is much poorer than that

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greece we were invited to present it in

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ancient olympia beautiful beautiful town

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uh and the president of greece prakopius

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he said exactly this that that it is

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quantum biology tries to describe

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mechanics was unable to describe a

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to 200

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atmosphere pressure at this pressure the

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living plant released a little amount of

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water and still remained alive

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the same experiment was done at that

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plant

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at the same pressure to

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100 atmospheres that that plant released

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also what it contained

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according to contemporary biochemistry

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the living community and the death

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consists of the same substance

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however it falls from markowski

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experiments they living can their

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note

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that markovsky is by structure and the

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beer field is not the same things

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their structures unlike few have a

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defined shape

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he viewed the by structures for a sponge

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the term the

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biological field was introduced by

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rich at the beginning of 20th century

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in physics a field has a property of

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continuity a special structure on the

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other hand is a system composed of

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elements of the arbitrary nature and has

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a certain space shape

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also here

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here lies a difference between

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structures and the physical

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despite the acoustic experience and

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other observations modern biology

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continues to develop with in boundaries

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of molecular concept and doesn't include

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physical welcome in the description

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the main reason for that is the theory

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of relativity

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indeed if we accept the special special

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structure exists in physical welcome

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then it would be possible to link a

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coordinate system with the structures

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this way it will be possible to

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introduce an absolute motion of of

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objects with respect to vacuum

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however it would contradict the first

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postulate of special relativity

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therefore in our opinion the

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serialization prevents the further study

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of the physical welcome in our opinion

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to understand what is life we need to go

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towards a final level of matter and

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understand the property of the physical

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welcome

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thank you very much nadia and nina it

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was a fascinating presentation so i want

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to remain to

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tell the participants that they can put

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the questions in the chat and we'll ask

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them nina and nadia regarding this

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interesting presentation so uh

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nina and nadia could you elaborate a

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little bit more regarding the difference

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uh so buyer um by a field field is a

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specific term

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in uh physics which means something that

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has

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a continuity so it's defined it's it's

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every point every point

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it has a certain specific value so

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unlike structures structures are

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shaped so a good example of a structure

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is a vertex in liquid

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so

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liquid or we can have a liquid and then

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something happened and we have a vortex

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so vertex is a structure in the liquid

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again unlike field which is something

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that has

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continuity okay thank you very much for

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any additional comments that you want uh

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to make nina or nadia regarding your

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presentation maybe an afterthought

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i just again want to use this

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opportunity

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show that the title of the book

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that we plan to publish

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in the fall and if you anybody you know

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interested in this topic how quant is

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going to just explain this book will go

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step by step in the development of

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quantum mechanics and also we'll talk

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about how deterministic approach can

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lead to our bad understanding of atom

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and as a result the living the process

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and living organisms so and here's the

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email if anybody

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will have questions later on they can

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email us

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uh this is nina sotina my mother's email

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thank you very much

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so here's an additional question from

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christoph king

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is your castle interpretation of quantum

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mechanics deterministic similar to the

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super deterministic theories of quantum

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mechanics for example t hoft

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2016.

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okay

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let me pass it to my mother this

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question i may translate for her because

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english is not her first language we'll

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try to make it brief

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these are the same as the glasses

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is it the same as quantum

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theory

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um

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because

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again you can find more details in your

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book because it's a long discussion to

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go into details of the theory but it's

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more considered um

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starting from the beginning

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and uh this in her book she derives the

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schrodinger equation from the classical

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mechanics and shows how the schrodinger

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equation actually uh is the conditional

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stability of an electron in the atom

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okay thank you very much nadia so uh

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yes they can vibrate um

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it's again it's something that needs to

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be studied but yes it's possible

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okay thank you very much

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so there's an additional question we

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just want to emphasize that structures

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do not uh uh override by field it's just

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we just want to emphasize in the work

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that by structures because sometimes

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there is a confusion

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that by a field can affect them but by

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field is a field and structure is

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something that is not a field structure

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cannot be the field but one can coexist

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with another

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interesting

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so there's an additional question

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regarding uh if you could please expand

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about the difference between

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uh living and death plants regarding

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pressure as you establish in one of your

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slides

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it's one of the rare experiments that

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were not performed

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anywhere else at least as far as we know

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um

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in this experiment what's interesting

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that

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but chemically

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the dead

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plant the living plant and that plant is

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made from the same atoms roughly

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speaking

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and

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it's the same substance

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however

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what markowski showed in his experiment

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that as if water in the living plant is

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structured

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in the sense that when the it was on the

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living plant was under high pressure of

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200 atmospheres

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the water stay still remain there only a

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little bit of water uh was released as

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if water had a different structure in

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the living once the plant died

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it's as if the water was not structured

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anymore it's just

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released all its water and according to

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matkowski he believed that basically

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there are two forms of matter

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that there's a molecular matter but

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there is something else so we believe

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that this something else are structures

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in the physical vacuum that vacuum

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structured water for example

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so that um

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when

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has a different structure than it uh has

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when the organism is dead so according

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to markowski he said again the

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non-molecular biostructure that keeps

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the integrity

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of the living carbons and there is a

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molecular form

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okay excellent thank you very much

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uh john kovacher asks us if the work

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you're developing is only theoretical at

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the moment or if you do have some

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experimental data to support your vacuum

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theories

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there is an interesting experiment if

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anybody interested on helium 3

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superfluid helium 3 and we believe that

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in some properties the physical vacuum

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is like helium 3 the structures can form

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in helium-3 which we believe similar

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structures can exist

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in uh

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[Music]

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there is a direction in physics that

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study helium 3 and there are many

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experiments uh and the whole the whole

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like

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part of physics of scientists who

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studied the

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uh physical vacuum as a field as as the

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medium

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thanks a lot oh yeah very interesting uh

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so

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probably our final question if anyone

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don't ask any additional one afterwards

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so tia music excuse me if i pronounce

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that incorrectly

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ask

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enzymes versus thermodynamics in

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biological systems

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that's a very interesting question

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it's a very broad dropping

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and

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[Music]

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we did not go deep into that because we

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are physicists we look at it more like

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fight try to find the

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uh physics approach to description of

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life because biology and physics meets

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at the point of micro world

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so there is a there is no one

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good explanation of what happened in

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living organism in microworld it's

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described very well non-limit living but

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we see it does not describe the living

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substances the living organisms

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biomolecules but that's a very good

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question no we did not uh really study

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that

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okay thank you very much

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uh thank you very much nina i'll

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think uh you'll have you'll be able to

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ask nina nadia additional questions but

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for that let's uh pass a microphone to

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our program chair john cruz so he can

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tell us more about it

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thank you ramses and thank you very much

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for the presentation is very interesting

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coming from different perspectives and i